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How do table football and bitcoin complement each other? The answer was shared with me by Peter Opara, bitcoiner and co-owner of Orcabay, with whom we talked about the collapsing pension system, over-regulation in Europe, what can stop bitcoin, micro-payments and his personal bitcoin story.


Do you call yourself a Bitcoiner and what does that term mean to you?

Peter: Yes, I consider myself a Bitcoiner. For me, it means that I have the option to opt out of the current monetary system and that I have the option to send money to anyone without restrictions. At the moment I only use the first one, but it is the option that is important!


Who or what brought you into the world of Bitcoin and when did you first get involved?

Peter: I was introduced to Bitcoin by colleagues at my first job. At the time, I was trading in the forex market and I only saw bitcoin as a trader. I missed the 2013 cycle because I didn't understand the broader meaning of bitcoin. Since then, I have been technically educating myself about bitcoin, and I started to learn about the monetary theory around bitcoin in 2018.


You're a physicist by profession. Did that make learning how Bitcoin works (technically) easier, faster?

Peter: Yes and no. As a physicist, I always doubt all things, even good things. That's certainly kept me away from bitcoin for a while. When that important click in my head happened, I guess my education really helped.


Michael Saylor says that money is the highest form of energy that humans can channel. How do you feel about that?

Peter: I see bitcoin as more static. For me, bitcoin is the best battery. Energy that you can convert into electricity, you can convert into bitcoin. Later, when you need energy, you can sell the bitcoin and get energy in return. The fact that bitcoin can be 'channelled' through space and time is superb. But that is what I expect from perfect money. The fact that we can store energy in it in such a direct way is revolutionary. It will completely change the way society thinks about energy production, and we know that living standards are proportional to energy consumption (and therefore production).


Is Bitcoin the soundest money? Why?

Peter: I measure the soundness of money by the ratio of the existing stock to the newly created stock. I don't know if there is money with a higher ratio. I'll think about that when someone presents me with a better alternative, but I won't look for it myself (the same reason why I was sceptical about bitcoin to begin with).


You are one of the "culprits" for the availability of the Slovenian translation of Bitcoin Standard. You have recently released a reprint. How challenging was it to translate content that lacks Slovenian terminology? Where can people buy the book?

Peter: Ugh, that was a very challenging project. First of all, thank you to the translator, Blaž Hafner, for his dedication and desire to produce a good final product. Thanks also to Luka Medic, who invested a lot of his time in improving the translation. Aljaž Čeru has done a solid job of keeping us on track by attending the weekly co-ordination meeting. The lack of Slovenian terminology certainly makes the translation difficult. It would be good to standardise the terms in the community. The most difficult thing, of course, is to organise the community to come to a common table and get down to business. Once that happens, we will quickly standardise terms. The book can be purchased at https://www.bitcoin-knjiznica.si/.


People allways ask where they can pay with bitcoin. I am glad to see that there are more and more such places. But I have heard that one place is particularly relevant for football fans. Table football. Can you please tell us more about that?

Peter: Hehe, unfortunately this place is no longer available. The football table is unfortunately sitting in the garage, because I haven't found a suitable place for it yet. The project was done as a proof of concept in 2019. At the time, I wanted to learn how to program microcontrollers. Mechanically, it is very easy to open the ball flap of a table football. You need a simple linear electric motor and a controller. The controller needs to have access to the internet so that it can check the validity of the deposit on the Lightning node and then put the electric motor in a state where the ball hatch is open. Unfortunately, at that time there was no LNURL (functionality that simplifies the implementation of payments), so the communication was a bit more complex than it would be now. The project demonstrates how easy it is to automate payment not only for things in the digital world, but also in the mechanical world. A very similar example would be Lightning payments on vending machines for coffee, sandwiches, snacks, etc.



Where do you see opportunities to simplify and automate the purchase process and make bitcoin a means of payment?

Peter: Everywhere. I'm very happy with using payment cards at the moment. I use them every day and the best thing is the speed of use. Until bitcoin is faster and easier to use, I see no reason to switch. If I think about censorship or transaction size limits, I am not worried about that as a shopper at the moment. I myself am ready to switch to the bitcoin standard at any time. So if I myself might one day have a problem with censorship or other restrictions, I would try using bitcoin. I see a great opportunity for bitcoin to be used in micro-payments at the moment. What I would most like to see is for newspapers and media houses to be able to charge for just one article for their print editions.


Slovenia's pension system is on the verge of collapse. The number of working-age people is falling and the number of pensioners is rising. In 20 years' time, will we have a pension, and will we be able to buy anything with the pension money?

Peter: According to Slovenian social democratic logic, a pension is supposed to be a solidarity contribution of the working population. This logic will (has) hit the wall. There will be no money because inflation means that wages do not rise as fast as costs. The difference in growth is directly visible in the level of pensions. If we persist with the current system, we will one day arrive at a paradoxical situation where a pensioner "earns" more in real terms than the active population. When the active population realises this, the system will collapse. The irony will be that, when the system collapses, the most vocal will be the disadvantaged pensioners who have financed the current system, but will also be the most responsible, because they had the power to change the system in time but did not do so.


What steps do you think the state should take to try and save what can still be saved?

Peter: Moving from a solidarity contribution to a savings scheme that can be managed to some extent by the final beneficiary. This would also shift responsibility from the state to the citizens, which I think is a good thing.


Money printing will only intensify under the guise of climate hysteria and the 2030 Agenda. Will the euro survive the next 10 years?

Peter: I don't know. The Lindy Effect talks about how long a thing will exist, given how long it has existed. The answer is that on average it will exist for as long as it has existed. So I would say 10 years it will exist, 25 years it won't 😀 .


You are a co-owner of Orcabay Ltd and in some way connected to bitcoin there. What do you do?

Peter: We are professional traders in the crypto markets, and our trading is automated by computer programs. We focus on trading strategies that provide liquidity and settle prices between different exchanges. We trade for our own fund and also offer computer programmes for providing liquidity as a service. Of course, we also trade other cryptocurrencies, but most of our turnover actually comes from moving bitcoin to exchanges where small investors buy bitcoin. There, we sell bitcoin at a slightly higher price than we buy it on the so-called wholesale market. When necessary, we make transfers of all funds between accounts so that liquidity is always available to the small investor.


How would you try to open the eyes of Slovenians and make them aware of the collapse of the monetary system and the alternatives? It is proven that facts and warnings do not work.

Peter: Hmmm, if I could use politics, I would make the payment of some (crisis) bonus (Slovenian tourist vouchers...) in bitcoin. Some proportion of people would probably change it into fiat and spend the euros, some would keep the bitcoin for a while and thus see the benefits of the system for themselves.


Europe seems to be winning in (over)regulating everything. How do you view this kind of market intervention?

Peter:🤦I am in favour of a lean state with clear rules and an efficient justice system. Since we have failed to do either, we are under the illusion that we can regulate the market with complex rules. By trying to hunt down the 5% of crooks, we will make it impossible for the productive and honest 95% to work. When I thought about this a few years ago, I was just beginning to understand conservative politics. These are not people who oppose abortion or gay marriage, but people who want everyone to decide for themselves what their own destiny is (without instructions from the state). Meanwhile, political progressivism is seen as a technologically advanced political movement, but it has no connection with technology. Everyone is in favour of technological progress, progressives and conservatives alike, progressives just want to come up with a new political system/regulation every month.


Bitcoin's success is not guaranteed. What do you think can stop it?

Peter: I fear an attack by a wealthy entity that would deliberately buy a large stock of bitcoin and then sell it in concentrated quantities, which would affect the market in the short term and make it impossible to use on a daily basis because of the high volatility. Such a strategy could be profitable for the attacker if the price of bitcoin keeps going up in the long term.


Why bitcoin?

Peter: Because it provides the most fair playing field for all participants.


You have one orange pill. Who in Slovenia would you give it to?

Peter: Žigi Turku.Where can people find you?Peter: @oparex at X




 

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Is playing bitcoin like playing poker? Who wins and who loses? Do we all win? In this interview, Peter Golob, a former professional poker player for whom Bitcoin changed his life, explains how bitcoin and poker are connected.


Can you call yourself a Bitcoiner and what does this term mean to you?

Peter: Of course, I'm a Bitcoiner. That means I spend most of my creative time on Bitcoin and I want to bring this amazing discovery to as many people as possible.


When did you first come across Bitcoin? Did you understand it immediately?

Peter: I first heard about Bitcoin back in 2011, on our pokepro.cc portal, in a forum where a member was talking about Bitcoin. At that time, the price was around $20. Of course, at that time, I was not the least bit interested, because my mind was elsewhere at that time. I was generating a lot of money for me at that time with online poker, and I was also involved in an affiliate programme related to poker. My ego was too big, my focus was completely elsewhere and I couldn't get into it because it wasn't time for me at that time.I was lucky I had a great mentor, Tomaž, who asked me every now and then since 2014 if I had bought it yet. So in 2017 I invested for the first time. That motivated me to start learning and there was no turning back. I found my passion again.


You have a very extensive experience in the world of poker. Can you share your journey with us?

Peter: Ugh, long story. I somewhere heard that Jonas Ž, who was a media star at the time, was involved in online poker. I gave it a try and after humble beginnings, somehow I got my hands on a good book on poker strategy. I studied it carefully and I haven't looked back since. I became obsessed with studying it and with the game itself, because it seemed that I had found exactly what I was looking for. The results improved exponentially and within six months I was earning several times my salary. And I was working as a mechanical engineer. I resigned in 2003 and that was when I turned my full attention to professional poker. Later I set up https://si.pokerpro.cc/ (which is still running today under different management) and helped to create the Slovenian poker community. Things happened organically and we became a real team, where we progressed and learned together. We gave our members many benefits, from the strategy training itself, to getting discounts on the fees collected by online poker organisers. We have seen the world and enjoyed life to the fullest.


What life lessons has the world of poker taught you?

Peter: Many things, especially long-term focus. Every strategy book talks about exactly that, but they all have one big common mistake. The long term is much longer than it first appears. And because poker is a finite game, there is pain built into it, because the winner gains at the expense of the loser, which ultimately leads to an imbalance. This has personally led me to divorce, burnout and depression.



What do poker and Bitcoin have in common?

Peter: They are basically opposite principles. In poker, you are competing with other players for the money that is on the table, but the organiser also wants to have a piece of the pie, which is usually substantial. So the organiser is by far the "best player" and slowly all the money goes to him. Over time, as all the players improve and become more equal, the organiser basically takes it all. Our current "fiat" economy works in a similar way, where all the productivity and innovation of society flows to the ruling structures or institutions that have hijacked the money and power to manipulate the system. Instead of having more and more time and being richer and richer as individuals and as a society, everything flows into the hands of those who have the power and can intervene as they see fit.

Bitcoin is the exact opposite, because it is not a zero-sum game where one person gains at the expense of another, but where all participants in the network benefit in the long term. It is a real tool that will, in the long term, align the initiatives in the system and lead us to a better life.


Does proof of work apply in the poker world?

Peter: Of course. To be successful in poker, you need to have a huge advantage over other players. And to do that, you have to spend a lot of time studying the game, which takes a lot of energy. Of course, you also have to have a tremendous amount of emotional control. Today's top players have two coaches: one for the strategy of the game itself and one for the mental preparation. There is no such thing as a free meal.


You and your colleagues recently organised the first Bitcoin meetup in Zasavje (Bitcoin meetup Zasavje). Who is it for and what do you talk about at events like this?

Peter: First of all, we want to encourage people to start thinking about Bitcoin and start learning. It is for all people because it is the light at the end of the tunnel. We talk about all sorts of things, but most of all, of course, about economics, money and a better life.


Where can people find out when you organise events and what the theme is?

Peter: The Bitcoin Society of Slovenia has a group on FB where all these events are announced. The topics are diverse and there will be more and more of these events around Slovenia. Specifically in Trbovlje there will be a new meetup every month.


What do you do in your free time? Are you involved with Bitcoin in any other way?

Peter: I'm an avid tennis player and mountain biker, where I ride my Husqvarna up and down the nearby hills. I'm still a risk-taker and sometimes I place a tennis bet. Sometimes I'll even play a little poker with friends.


Bitcoin is basically my life and I see everything from that perspective. Once you understand, once it clicks, you can't help but see the world in a different light. For me, Bitcoin is a light, it is a transformational matter that makes you start to learn, and with every step you progress. Of course, it also helps that your purchasing power is increasing and you are no longer tied to this corrupt system. This buys you time and freedom to do what you enjoy.


What needs to happen for people to realise that the government, the globalists and the multinationals never act in the interests of the people?

Peter: It seems that pain is necessary and needed for everyone. Everyone needs pain on an individual level, which gives them the motivation and the desire to crawl out of this gutter. I am only afraid of too much collective pain, which may take the form of totalitarianism and the control that will be imposed on us. That is what our movement is about, because Bitcoin was created for precisely that reason, to resist that and to set up a parallel, equal for all, decentralised system.


It's 2030. What will Bitcoin's role be then?

Peter: I think it's in the next cycle that we will see a global transition, and by then it will be much more obvious that Bitcoin is becoming the only true global money.


What change is needed to ensure that the state is at the service of citizens and not the other way around?

Peter: Bitcoin as the world's reserve currency and the fall of a fiat debt system that doesn't hold water.


How to raise the interest of Slovenians to start exploring what bitcoin is?

Peter: Everyone working in this ecosystem has to contribute in their own way. Everyone who owns a bitcoin has an incentive to expand the network as much as possible. The average person will be organically persuaded by the price in € and eventually no one will be able to resist bitcoin. Wait a little longer and in a couple of months, Bitcoin will be popping out on every media outlet. The world cannot resist such a good technology, because we need it for a civilised and orderly society. Everything is going, more or less, the way it should.


Why bitcoin? (In one sentence)

Peter: Because it is the antimatter to this corrupt system, which will properly adjust and balance people's initiatives.


You have one orange pill. Who in Slovenia would you give it to?

Peter: In Trbovlje we have Dewesoft, whose mastermind is Jure Knez, who is an outstanding expert and visionary. I wish he would understand the power of Bitcoin.


Which book would you give to the President of the country?

Peter: A book by Seb Bunney, a fellow passionate downhiller who wrote a brilliant book, The Hidden Cost of Money.


Where can people find you?

Peter: I have a FB page called Cerkev Sv. Bitcoina (St Bitcoin's Church), which was created purely as a joke, because we make fun of all institutions, where I post jokes, but also very serious things. I also have a website where I write articles or translate things by many other authors to make them accessible to the Slovenian public, mostly for my own pure pleasure. https://www.bitcoinzasavje.si/

Years of experience in the corporate world of asset management and investment banking, data analysis, capital flow monitoring, geopolitical developments and an understanding of how the existing financial system works, led Marko to bitcoin. He offered us his view on bitcoin from the perspective of an investment advisor.


You're a bitcoiner. What does this term mean to you?

Marko: Distinguishing between a central financial system and a decentralised digital store of value.


You have worked for many years in the corporate world, at home and abroad. In which fields have you been involved?

Marko: I was a stockbroker for 12 years and everything that goes into the business of stockbroking, OnLine trading on behalf and for the account of clients on domestic and foreign stock exchanges, mutual funds, M&A, IPOs. After that I continued my career in private banking for 4 years, within one of the largest European banks, as an investment advisor for high net worth clients.


Can you explain how private banking works? Is the objective to maximise the client's wealth or to maximise the bank's profit?

Marko: Part of the service is the long-term creation and maintenance of a portfolio with different financial instruments (shares, bonds, different mutual funds, structured products) according to the needs of the clients (over the whole period of the client's activity), lifestyle, etc. Private banking is not only financial investments. It is true that this service is rather under-represented in our environment, but the comprehensive private banking service available in the Western world encompasses much more than just financial investments. It is a lifelong, generational service across the whole area of the individual, the family, the family business. On the second part of the question, it is the business of managing the financial investments of a bank, that is to say, the bundle of financial instruments that the bank has in its books.


Are the products available to the whole market or only to selected customers?

Marko: ETFs, mutual funds, stocks, bonds, precious metals, even derivatives are available to the whole market. For example, certain structured products, derivatives that are tailor-made, are available to clients who want this kind of service and yes, they are available to high net worth individuals because that is what their needs are. Make no mistake, there is a cost to building these types of products, hence the higher entry amount.


Who determines/dictates where investments are made?

Marko: If we talk specifically about private banking or brokerage departments within the major banks, each major bank has its own analytics department segmented by investment class, i.e. equities, bonds, FX, etc. This is now also emerging for bitcoin and digital assets. So, this is the basis on which investment advice is given according to the needs and wishes of the clients. It is also the basis for selecting the appropriate solutions to achieve the objective (read: financial instruments). These may or may not be "in-house". An "in-house" product means that the bank in question is the issuer of the financial instrument (mutual fund, ETF, derivatives).

Bitcoin has only just begun its journey in the financial industry. In the same way, we are now seeing more investment banks issuing their own Bitcoin ETFs. The only differences are the management fee, maybe the choice of custodian, so the technical background, and maybe some specifics on investment policy, settlement, etc.

It is not so much about "dictating" as actually understanding how the market works and where the consumer is heading in relation to geopolitical developments and macroeconomic forecasts. Liquidity in the form of fiat assets is being placed where the trends, the directions, are going.

As for "dictation" and Bitcoin - the Bitcoin ETF is now on the desks of all investment advisers around the world, where it will be offered as part of the diversification of investment portfolios. And it's a good story. Not just good, it's a great story. There are so many different ways in which the interested public can be reached. And who is the best at it? Wall Street.What is happening in the financial markets at the moment is the following - a private banker is looking after the investments of a large family, a dynasty, where he manages say $100m of different assets in a portfolio and offers exposure in BTC of up to 5%, i.e. $5m. In this case, it is so-called "old money". This amount of bitcoin will be bought and withdrawn from the market. It will remain almost forever in this client's portfolio, and will pass from one generation to the next. Thus, investment activity in BTC will expand and the value, measured in fiat currency, will naturally increase. This is also how cycles, fluctuations and larger aggregate purchases and sales are created. This then generates data on future volumes coming in or going out of the market, etc. In short, it is business as usual within the existing financial industry.


What kind of customers are Slovenians compared to foreign investors? What is the level of product knowledge?

Marko: The knowledge is there, but it is poor. There is a strong desire to understand, which is great, but the wider social environment adds negative connotations to the field and that is where we are. For individuals, the environment does not offer a fair way to create added value and prosperity. Unless it is self-initiated and self-educated. As far as entrepreneurial activity in the field of modern technologies is concerned, when we talk about blockchain solutions, we are very advanced and respected and recognised abroad. In short, society and the system in this area are not geared towards educating individuals, nor is there a conscious desire to educate them and build the so-called wealth of the nation.


Given your years of experience and knowledge in the field of wealth management, what advice would you give to Slovenians who are frantically looking for instant, high-yielding investments?

Marko: Those who are frantically looking for instant high returns will sooner or later run out of funds. But pyramid schemes, or scams, happen about every 3-5 years in this territory. This segment is apparently a kind of national sport. Unfortunately, the demand is there. It is difficult to give advice to such people. They seem to have their own learning curve, most of them repeating classes several times. When I go to events and talk to visitors about some of the 'shady' models, I see quite a few of them on the market at the moment. That's just the way it is.

Wall Street is richer for Bitcoin ETFs. What do you think this means for Bitcoin?The arrival of Bitcoin ETFs (exchange traded funds) on Wall Street is an act of great significance and opens up unprecedented opportunities for the development of this technology going forward. It gives it the legitimacy to be even more present in professional investment publications, analysts will follow the development and the use will expand. It also means that fiat liquidity will flow into bitcoin at a steady rate, certainly in one direction initially. Bitcoin's market capitalisation is so very small relative to other investment classes that volatility will certainly be present in the future, but the potential is great.


Bitcoin has a very effective and strong argument in terms of the activities of investment banks, specifically advisers, who will be able to offer this option to clients as part of their regular advisory activities. People will start educating themselves, talking to each other, the market will react accordingly. The story of the Bitcoin ETF as an alternative asset allocation within an overall portfolio is so strong that anyone who understands the workings of the financial markets will want to have a Bitcoin ETF as part of their portfolio, and to follow its further development. The main incentive for the purchase decision will be the hedge of the portfolio.

In my opinion, this is a key event that will help to develop in the direction that the Bitcoin community is talking about, idealising, building in thought and action today. Bitcoin is now connected to the largest fiat liquidity.


But the Bitcoin ETF is not Bitcoin. It is just a fiat product that will earn a commission using bitcoin. Am I wrong?

Marko: Of course, technically speaking, an investor in a Bitcoin ETF is handing over fiat liquidity to an institution that holds private keys. You could say that this is "institutionalised Bitcoin". The individual does not have the possibility to instruct his broker or banker to transfer the bitcoin he has in the ETF to the individual's private wallet. The management fee includes the cost of servicing all infrastructure, maintenance, custody and brokerage services, hence the "break even" point of the profitability of the issuance and management of such an ETF for the issuers.


When did you first hear about bitcoin and when did it click?

Marko: When I was still working as a stockbroker, it started appearing on CNBC TV. At that time it was around $500. Then I gradually learned, built up my knowledge, built up my career, then wherever the industry turned, I followed it, and all the time I was raising awareness for those who wanted it. I have always shared my knowledge, insights and what is going on in the world with my clients. Getting to know and understanding Bitcoin is a process, and it's also about recognising many individuals around you who don't have the most sincere intentions. I am also grateful for this education.

The click happened gradually. The issue was clear, there were answers and questions were needed, and vice versa. Common sense explores, thinks critically, questions and that takes time... I went to a few conferences, some on Bitcoin, some on crypto, in London, Amsterdam, Zurich, Dubai, Lugano, Lisbon, etc. We went to some of these conferences together with the Slovenian community, where I am grateful for the knowledge I gained, and for the fact that they transferred all my concerns and fiat applications to Bitcoin.


You manage digital assets for your clients. Where, how, in what way?

Marko: I run 8 different crypto strategies on the ICONOMI platform in London under the Wisdom Crypto brand. Currently, Wisdom Crypto strategies are followed by around 400 clients with around €300k in assets. Clients on the ICONOMI platform can follow, invest in these strategies. Structures include Bitcoin, Ethereum and the rest of the most liquid digital assets by market capitalization. Strategies vary according to volatility, sectors, etc. The management of the strategies is based on a passive format, i.e. similar to the way ETFs are managed. Each client of the ICONOMI platform can freely access the Wisdom Crypto strategies, without any time commitment. I therefore offer 1:1 training to those interested in the way I am used to from private banking and stock brokerage. I equip the client with the necessary knowledge, information resources, security, risks and understanding. On this basis, I provide the client with possible allocations according to their needs,

and am available for further questions.


What other services does Wisdom Crypto offer?

Marko: The point is education, helping individuals to understand what they are doing, to be able to learn independently, to be able to check information. It also educates customers if they want to buy and hold bitcoin in the long term.Investment solutions are presented through appropriate financial instruments.Wisdom Crypto also offers information from international financial markets, primary sources, in short raising awareness.


How to raise the interest of Slovenians to start exploring what bitcoin is?

Marko: Education, use, investment.


Why bitcoin? (In one sentence)

Marko: Because it makes sense and is logical.


You have one orange pill. Who in Slovenia would you give it to and why?

Marko: In Slovenia ... um ... I'm currently seeing the entrepreneurial pulse in Slovenia through the podcast and video snippets on LinkedIn by the SBC Slovenian Business Club led by Joc Pečečnik. It may be that he, through "taking the orange pill", would be able to popularize the importance of Bitcoin for the Slovenian environment to make a difference for the wider good in this area. I think his entrepreneurial platform is the right place right now to address the entrepreneurial sphere, decision makers and individuals.


Bitcoin books are finally available in Slovenian (bitcoin-knjiznica.si). Which book would you give to the President of the Republic?

Marko: It is a tremendous added value and a treasure to have this kind of literature available in Slovenian. I myself have set up my marketing and business through education. In this context, I buy Bitcoin standard books and give them away with the income I generate from managing strategies on the ICONOMI platform. Books, education are noble areas of approach to fellow human beings.


Related to the previous question, and to this one, I think the winning combination would be for Joc Pečečnik to take the orange pill, the President of the country to read the Bitcoin Standard, and for the two of them to appear together on the SBC Podcast and see where we are as a society and how much work we still have to do.

David, I encourage you in this direction, to do this within the extent of your power, with motivation, for the younger generations and their future. ☺


Where can people find you?

In Kranj in Kocka BarIn Ljubljana, at least on Wednesdays.



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